Ladies and Gentlemen… David Willis made a flawed argument. Listen in, read his argument!
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Ladies and Gentlemen… David Willis made a flawed argument. Listen in, read his argument!
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Kittyhawk swoops in to talk about harem anime with us. Halfway through the show, Eric of Exiern joins the conversation. This show is all about girls, girls, girls! Long legs and burgundy lips!
Discussed on the show:
Tenchi
Ranma ½
Love Hina
To Love-Ru
Girls Bravo
DNA²
No Bra
Change 123
Golden Boy
Kämpfer
Ai Yori Aoshi
Archie (when Cheryl is in play)
Also discussed:
Sucking breasts to get power
The optimal harem number
Harem girl tropes
When the main girl doesn’t win
The guy is always the same character
Harems versus threesomes
Big Love, The Bachelorette, and My Five Wives
THE TRAP!!!
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Harry Partridge the world (in)famous internet animator joins us for a very special interview! We were planning this interview for over half a year and it finally happens! Neil and I were VERY excited and we’ll do our best to not fill this post with Harry’s video, all available on his youtube channel. We learn why non-tweened Flash animation just LOOKS better, some of Harry’s favorite cartoons growing up, and much more!
Show Topics:
The Miley Cyrus show
Imitating Filmation(lovingly?)
Stephen the Lesbian
How easy it is to sound American
26 episodes of Nicholas Cage wanting CAKE!
Christian Weston Chandler!(yeah, we’re sorry about that….)
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This ep, we are joined by JT from Saskatoon and the ever vocal Thomas Revor to discuss the DCAU Apocrypha: the lost books of the DCAU bible (Static Shock, Zeta Project, and Teen Titans). These shows are NOT in continuity. We even have Tara Strong’s own word for it. (Thanks, Blanchard. You get a cookie this week.)An apocrypha is a collection of stories that has been tossed aside from a main canon for a variety of reasons. The shows we talk about tonight are jettisoned from the DCAU continuity not just because we may feel that they’re inferior, but also because they have deviated stylistically and creatively from the main canon. Zeta started out as a spin-off of a DCAU property but found its strength in being its own thing, whereas Static Shock’s only claim to DCAU connectivity lies in a few desperate crossover attempts as its popularity waned. Teen Titans, however, has a restraining order keeping it from going anywhere near the DCAU.
Show Topics:
What do the Gordanians have to do with the price of tea in China?
Shaq, the Backstreet Boys, and the Hoop Squad
Oh no! There goes Tokyo. Go go Teen Titans!(?)
Sexualizing underage cartoon characters
Lauren Faust for the win!
Booyah!
STUNT DAWGS!!!
I will be at the Dallas Strip-Con this Saturday for anyone who wants to meet me. We may even record a live episode there! Come see me, I may even draw something for you.
But back to the topic at hand: Nostalgia being used as a weapon. Nostalgia is a funny thing; something that can’t be measured, intangible, and full of good feelings. But, because it cannot be measured, it should never be used as a way to rate a show.
Believe it or not, there is actually a way to measure how a story is written: It’s by using things like plot points, characterization/character growth, plotholes or lack therefor of. And no, there is no “And that’s fine, but…” because a story is a story is a story. Ultimately, we go into these cartoons for the story. Even if the animation gets dodgy, if the story is good, we stick around.
As I detailed in a comment earlier, using Nostalgia is a weapon against criticism is like using a feather pillow against an armed attacker: it’s full of good feelings, may actually feel heavy in your hands, but will have a feather-light impact. I know what nostalgia is, and believe me, I have felt nostalgia in the past. I had great memories of watching the Critic when it first aired…
Then I watched it again and I cannot believe what dreck it was. Badly timed jokes, full of ‘Murphy Brown’-esque period jokes, and bland animation. It’s not Family Guy bad, but it’s certainly not good in the least. The difference is, when watching The Critic again, it’s badness was so apparent, that nostalgia withered away on the vine. For anyone else, that nostalgia will somehow, magically, elevate a turd into gold. I’m just saying that, looking at the actual work itself, minus the nostalgia, that won’t happen.
The same for Fox’s X-Men. Someone not blinded by Nostalgia cannot possibly say the animation was ‘as good’ as Evolution. Like storytelling, animation can be judged by scientific qualities such as being on model, good use of frames per second, good color models, good use of backgrounds…. Against Evolution, Fox fails in all these properties.
So we ask you, listeners and future guests, that when we rate a show, you keep in mind that nostalgia doesn’t exist for a new potential viewer. A new viewer will not absorb your childhood feelings from Saturday Mornings long past through contact. If you insist on making someone new watch these shows simply due to your own nostalgia, you will put them through a lot of pain.
— Ben the Host(NOT a Nostalgia Critic).